[I think] the technological infrastructure of podcasts matters
tremendously. That line -- I forget who wrote it -- being able to say,
"'Wherever you get your podcasts' is a radical statement."
The fact that podcasts have built audiences largely outside of
algorithmic feeds, have built them through an open protocol called
R.S.S. That technical backbone actually matters....
Part of the reason podcasts have flourished -- two-, three-hour
podcasts, podcasts with novelists about obscure topics, long solo
monologues about history -- is because they're not embedded in the same
technical attentional marketplace. I think that really matters a lot,
and I think it's actually really hopeful.